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« Reply #435 on: January 23, 2006, 02:39:40 AM »
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Yes, that charcoal technique existed in the 1800's, I have several pics from that era of my ancestors that have been done that way, even colorized somehow. I see something was done to the pic on the right but the pic on the left looks like an ordinary old picture.


Not to mention that Gertrude certainly had no problem recognizing the photo on the left as that of her sister. It would be absurd to think that a photograph, having been in the family's posession for years, and not disputed to be anyone else other than FS, would be altered to look more like FS so the family would recognize her as FS, when the picture already was of FS to begin with!

But I'm sure to people like Bear that line of reasoning is perfectly logical ::), and it's best to ignore. ..ignore...ignore

My grandmother too  has several pictures of ancestors from the mid 1800s in fancy evening dress and military outfits with that charcoal technique, so I've seen it before too. But that picture on the left has obviously had nothing done to it.    

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Re: AA/FS Photo Comparison - Similarities: What is Wrong With AA Being FS?
« Reply #436 on: January 23, 2006, 10:51:33 AM »
What do you know that the courts of Germany didn't know about the photograph of FS? It was the German court who accepted the fact that no known untouched photo of FS was known to them.

Just saying you and Annie know it wasn't doesn't make it true and I don't care how many times you say that it is it doesn't change this fact.

Since I have collected thousands of photographs taken between the first photo taken to the early 1900s,  I am well aware of everything from the cheapest photo to the professional.  I am also and artists.  I am well aware of what was accomplished with all kinds of photographs taken around the time FS's photo was taken and what was being accomplished in the 1920s.

Until we see the original,  we have no idea what FS looked out.  

Of course,  we know, that FS must have looked similar but if you read what Felix tells us,  then you can understand the confusion not only by him and his sister Gertrude.

Felix signed this affidavit:

>>There does exist a strong resemblance between her and my sister.  The resemblance is strong when you look from the front, but not when you look from the side...<<

p. 174 ANASTASIA, THE RIDDLE OF ANNA ANDERSON by Peter Kurth.

Logic and knowledge is with me on this.

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« Reply #437 on: January 23, 2006, 02:13:22 PM »
Logic and knowledge? I'm afraid they both go against almost everything you post, since you continually seem to try to prove AA was not FS.

The comment by Felix S. sounds like somebody trying to get out of something. They recognized her at first, then realized blowing her cover was not a good thing, so they backed off and tried to find a legit sounding reason for this. That is logic, especially since we know that she WAS their sister.

I'm still waiting for someone to SHOW me how that pic is retouched. It is not, you can see it is not. It's like if you tried to tell me the sky was green and posted quotes from others who agreed, I would still see it blue until you proved it to me, which you can't.
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Re: AA/FS Photo Comparison - Similarities: What is Wrong With AA Being FS?
« Reply #438 on: January 23, 2006, 02:32:41 PM »
Speaking from the point of view of an artist,  the sky is never just blue ;D.

Please,  let us not get into the subject of what color blue if one had to choose just one blue from a crayola super size box.  It would depend if you're looking at a winter, sping, summer, fall, clear, stormy sky, and, added to this it would depend upon if you are viewing it from  Montana or New York City or London or Moscow....

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Re: AA/FS Photo Comparison - Similarities: What is Wrong With AA Being FS?
« Reply #439 on: January 23, 2006, 03:50:51 PM »
Pardon me for injecting some sanity to this discussion ( ;D ) but does not this entire line of these threads drive home specifically the point, to both sides of discussion, that Photographic comparison is virtually useless as probative evidence for anyone? Just look at how subjective this stuff is. People see ONLY what they expect to see, and nothing else. Frankly, I don't think the photos prove anything about anyone.  Heck I've seen a hundred such old photos on ebay and in my grandmother's scrapbooks of fuzzy pics of Polish women during the 1920s that look just like them.

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Re: AA/FS Photo Comparison - Similarities: What is Wrong With AA Being FS?
« Reply #440 on: January 23, 2006, 04:44:11 PM »
Do you know for sure where your grandmother was on the night of July 16, 1918?

Just asking. Because, you know.

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Re: AA/FS Photo Comparison - Similarities: What is Wrong With AA Being FS?
« Reply #441 on: January 23, 2006, 05:03:55 PM »
Well, I do know, actually. She was at home in Pontiac Illinois, probably taking care of my then infant uncle. My father wasn't born until 1922. BUT, she DID have two sisters still in Poland...whereabouts unknown to me...hmmmmmm...

Tedders, fetch me a martini...This calls for some deep thought.

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Re: AA/FS Photo Comparison - Similarities: What is Wrong With AA Being FS?
« Reply #442 on: January 23, 2006, 05:55:42 PM »
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BUT, she DID have two sisters still in Poland...whereabouts unknown to me...hmmmmmm...


Uh oh...;)

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« Reply #443 on: January 23, 2006, 06:18:51 PM »
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Well, I do know, actually. She was at home in Pontiac Illinois, probably taking care of my then infant uncle. My father wasn't born until 1922. BUT, she DID have two sisters still in Poland...whereabouts unknown to me...hmmmmmm...

Tedders, fetch me a martini...This calls for some deep thought.


That would be a Polish vodka martini then,Sir?...Don't stand near an open flame.....Tedders makes them....BIG

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Re: AA/FS Photo Comparison - Similarities: What is Wrong With AA Being FS?
« Reply #444 on: January 23, 2006, 08:03:06 PM »
No no Tedders, Ketel One (Dutch vodka) OR Belvedere (Polish), a double, very cold,  2 olives...many thanks....No worry about open flames. Tedders is a most obliging bear...

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« Reply #445 on: January 23, 2006, 08:11:18 PM »
Do FS and FA share mtDNA?! :o

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Re: AA/FS Photo Comparison - Similarities: What is Wrong With AA Being FS?
« Reply #446 on: January 23, 2006, 08:19:01 PM »
Doubtful, actually Annie. My Polish grandmother is my PATERNAL grandmother. My maternal grandmother, who's mtDNA I carry was born in Chicago in 1894 to Lithuanian parents who immigrated in 1867. SIGH, there goes the book deal...at least I got the martini.  ;D

But wait, my father is still alive...maybe HE has the FS mtDNA.....call the book agent....
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Re: AA/FS Photo Comparison - Similarities: What is Wrong With AA Being FS?
« Reply #447 on: January 23, 2006, 08:42:23 PM »
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But wait, my father is still alive...maybe HE has the FS mtDNA.....call the book agent....


Oooh! Our very own FA!

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« Reply #448 on: January 23, 2006, 11:10:08 PM »
I Really wanna  belive it i mean the ears look how close  a perfect match     I Watched the nova progame  today  I Really was rooting for a match      is that the Disrespectful to their memory ???

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« Reply #449 on: January 24, 2006, 07:41:36 AM »
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I Really wanna  belive it i mean the ears look how close  a perfect match     I Watched the nova progame  today  I Really was rooting for a match      is that the Disrespectful to their memory ???


I was rooting for it to be her, too, but it wasn't. Now there is no need to keep pretending and putting things into it that aren't there, or that don't matter anymore after the tests. The only thing disrespectful to their memories now are the conspiracy theories and the fighting over it.  I mean this for both the Romanovs and for Franziska. Let them rest in peace, do not fight over them, they would not want this.